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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Celt » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:32 am

TBH Daft Punk have never been about punk . . . they do electronic disco/funk and they do it well. R.A.M. was well crafted . . .admittedly ot everyone's cup of tea, but for those who like theri stuff it was well done and worth the time and effort ($1m woth allegedly) put into it . . .

I have to agre with the first two postscripts though . . . even if, as far as the third one is concerned I am catholic in my musical appreciation . . . well with a few exceptions for auto-tuned singers (or rappers) backed by a sampled track from someone else's creation . . .
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Fuzz » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:30 am

Well, looks like you and I are in disagreement!

Obviously music is very personal based on your own tastes. RAM is technically an incredible piece of work, weather you like the music or not. I suspect that's why it won. I'm not sure who the challengers were, but given music these days, maybe they didn't have much competition?
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby mhudon » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:43 am

In my opinion, The Heist from Macklemore & Ryan Lewis was a better album. Not a fan of this genre of music, but still very enjoyable. The videos clips produced for Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us were very nice productions too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zNSgSzhBfM
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:44 am

It looks like we need to extend Clone's title from "X-bit Film Critic" to "X-bit Film and Music Critic" here :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk

Daft Punk is a French electronic music duo consisting of musicians Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo and Thomas Bangalter.[3][4][5][6] Daft Punk reached significant popularity in the late 1990s house movement in France and met with continued success in the years following, combining elements of house with synthpop.[4][5][7] The duo is credited with producing songs that are considered essential in the French house scene. The group was managed from 1996 to 2008 by Pedro Winter (Busy P), the head of Ed Banger Records.[8] Early in the group's career, the band members were influenced by groups including The Beach Boys and The Rolling Stones.[9]

Bangalter and Homem-Christo were originally in a band called Darlin', which disbanded after a short period of time, leaving the two to experiment musically on their own. The duo became Daft Punk, releasing its critically acclaimed debut album Homework in 1997. The 2001 release of Discovery was even more successful, driven by the club singles "One More Time", "Digital Love", and "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger". In March 2005, the duo released the album Human After All to mixed reviews. However, the singles "Robot Rock" and "Technologic" achieved success in the United Kingdom.

Daft Punk toured throughout 2006 and 2007 and released the live album Alive 2007, which won a Grammy Award for Best Electronic/Dance Album. The duo composed the score of the film Tron: Legacy and in 2010 released the soundtrack album of the film. In January 2013, Daft Punk left EMI Records for Sony Music Entertainment's subsidiary label Columbia, and released Random Access Memories in 2013 to critical acclaim. The lead single "Get Lucky" became an international success, peaking in the top 10 in 32 countries. Random Access Memories led to five Grammy wins in 2014 including Album of the Year, as well as Record of the Year for "Get Lucky".

Daft Punk is noted for its elaborate live stage shows, in which visual elements and effects are incorporated with the music. The group is known for its emphasis on using visual and story components associated with their musical productions. Daft Punk is also known for its use of disguises while in public and/or performing; specifically ornate helmets and gloves to assume robot personas in most of their public appearances since 2001. The duo rarely grant interviews or appear on television.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NV6Rdv1a3I

"modern" disco! 8) :D :whistle:

PS: Regarding Lorde, yes, but I have seen 13 year olds with lots of makeup and slutgear on that look over 30... Lorde is almost "ancient" at age 17 in the "teen pop world" these days... :P

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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:57 am

mhudon wrote:In my opinion, The Heist from Macklemore & Ryan Lewis was a better album. Not a fan of this genre of music, but still very enjoyable. The videos clips produced for Thrift Shop and Can't Hold Us were very nice productions too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zNSgSzhBfM


Good songs and videos! I too am not the biggest "fan" of this genre, but I can appreciate the talent and work that went into these songs/videos! 8)
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Fuzz » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:03 am

You are welcome to your opinion, of course, but I've just got to point out that you are flat out wrong on a few points. Daft Punk is one of the few electronic producers out there that uses actual talent to make their music. RAM is a collaboration of many artists past and present, with vocals from many contributors, guitars, orchestras, a choir... They are ridiculously committed to music and sounds, they will spend weeks just getting a tone just right. They don't just puke out pop crap. You may not like it, and that's fine, but to suggest they are equivalent to PSY, well, lets just say pretty much anyone with an understanding of what they do would disagree strongly with that.

If you want, I highly recommend watching this, it may give you a deeper understanding of how they make music.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... yIDSAHpd7s
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby mhudon » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:00 pm

THese guys look pretty involved in their music, puts a tear to the eye :sniff:

Christians beware, this is a little extreme :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:21 pm

mhudon wrote:THese guys look pretty involved in their music, puts a tear to the eye :sniff:

Christians beware, this is a little extreme :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9pa3rIIwZs


Not enough blood/graphic imagery!! :wink: :twisted: :lol: :mrgreen:

Good that you put the "warning" for "Christians" tag before that video lol! :scout:

Gorgoroth... interesting name! Could be the name of the next Kaiju monster in the sequel to Pacific Rim methinks! :P
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:24 pm

clone wrote:p.s. to be clear this is not a personal attack on anyone's taste in music, I just despise the work Daft Punk has done so far and consider them yet another example of the garbage that is being pushed out of the music industry.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. If you think that "Daft Punk" is "garbage being pushed out by the music industry" then I have to wonder what you think of Justin Boober's "music" ?! :wink: :mrgreen: :lol:

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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:04 pm

I would be kind of surprised if they actually deported him...yes he does deserve it but none of the "crimes" he has committed so far have been "serious" enough for deportation... he only blew a 0.014 BAC on the breathalyzer... perhaps he was blitzed on the combination of weed, having a beer, and the x anax pill he admitted to taking that night to the cops... but he did not kill anyone ( yet ) so I doubt they will actually deport him... hopefully just being charged and spending a few hours in jail waiting for bail was enough to scare him a little, I doubt it though... the fame and money has clearly gone straight to his head... :roll:
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby TAViX » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:28 am

To be honest I'm surprised Daft Punk didn't win more awards. This band produces one of the most original Electronic music nowadays. They are not focused on only 1 genre, they have several styles. Not only me, but a lot of critics consider them to be the geniuses of our time regarding this kind of music.
Just look at TRON Legacy. Mediocre movie, but it had one of the best soundtracks of any SF movies. And a lot of critics admitted for giving the movie better scores, because of the music that was exactly what the movie needed, even if it was at least x10 times better than the movie itself. All thanks to Daft Punk. ;)

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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Sauron_Daz » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:09 am

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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Sauron_Daz » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:10 am

mhudon wrote:THese guys look pretty involved in their music, puts a tear to the eye :sniff:

Christians beware, this is a little extreme :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9pa3rIIwZs

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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Sauron_Daz » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:12 am

clone wrote:p.s. who modded the editor to put nobody in place of the artists name?


I think Celt did, to 'punish' hammer_Time for his frequent posts about him. :lol:
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Celt » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:02 am

I did.

Now for a rant . . .

Clone, clearly you have no idea about the skill level required to produce electronic music and the effort and talent needed. Don't get me wrong, it is perfectly possible to produce a record that way using nothing but samples and out the box sounds, but even that requires some skill (Skrillex?) . . . However Daft Punk are most certainly not in that category . . . They do use some samples, but a lot of what they do is more audio engineering than sample manipulation. They have openly criticised "laptop music" and it must be noted that R.A.M. Was recorded mostly with traditional (analogue) techniques and recorded using live musicians for many elements. It took them 5 years and cost them $1m+ so please if you are going to criticise that type of production, aim it at an artist that uses those techniques.

If you want to learn how much effort was put in, then I recommend the July 2013 issue of Sound on Sound here:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul13/a ... t-punk.htm

Until then leave your criticism of Daft Punk to the musical style, where you are capable and fully entitled to dislike or like them (or anyone else) as much as you like (after all musical taste is a personal matter), but on the production side, don't criticise what you don't know. You are not only attacking the artists, but the recording and production engineers, an industry I nearly made my career in.
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Fuzz » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:23 am

Thanks for that, Celt. Its obvious Clone has no idea what he is talking about. He is free to dislike the style, but building straw men is BS.

Clone, you mentioned something about "to a techno concert with no vocals and just try to see if they are playing a recording vs a band lip syncing during a live performance." I went to see Chemical Brothers years ago, and it was the best performance I have ever heard. They have all the sounds that they created loaded in and they can pretty much do whatever they wanted with them. The result is a remaking of their music live, but controlling every pitch, sample sound etc. They are literally conducting the orchestra with full control. Doing all that live takes an incredible amount of skill. I know Daft Punk shows are the same. Feel free to admit that you may not like it, but you can't compare them to the skill-less button pushers.
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Celt » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:46 pm

Both Daft Punk and Zchemical Bothers do more than hit buttons . . . Not only are they playing synths (you know, like a Piano, but with 20+ extra controls to manipulate the sounds! and I mean potentiometer type controls not buttons), or perhaps you don't consider anything with a keyboard a real instrument . . . Well they play guitar too . . .

If you think it is just pressing buttons, then that's about as accurate as saying that anyone who can type must automatically be a computer programming wizard . . . But I guess that once again your mind is closed to reality in favour of your own faulty assumptions . . . If you don't like Daft Punk, what about Jean-Michel Jarre, or Coldplay, or Kraftwerk, or ELO . . . As I said, yes there are those who create push button music. Unfortunately you have failed to identify any of them . . . Do try . . .
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:16 pm

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Re: Daft Punk

Postby TAViX » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:38 pm

Clone, just for the reference, can you tell us please what is your favorite genre and artist(s) also? Just to see where we're standing. ;)
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Re: Daft Punk

Postby Hammer_Time » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:49 pm

Clone loves Dubstep of course! :twisted: :wink: :incoming: :lol:

I think he also enjoys a good Polka on a Sunday as well! :whistle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRLqVSRdfng

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Of course our little festival here in KW pales in comparison to the original festival in Munich, Germany! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdsgqw7zLfk

"The Wedgie Angel"??? Wut?? Oh the Humanity of it all... :mrgreen: :lol:
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