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R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:13 pm

Good afternoon ladies, gentleman and the others...

It's official, AMD's R9 290X are almost sold out everywhere!!! Same thing for the little sister, the R9 290. Let's hope this means that aftermarket cooled R9 are on their way to the shelves!

The story is the opposite on Nvidia's side. Both GTX 780 models are widely available, everywhere. I wounder why such a difference; availability problems with AMD, or difference in popularity? What's your angle?
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Hammer_Time » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:42 pm

Probably because the Daamit cards are the same price or cheaper and offer similar performance methinks! :mrgreen:

GTX 780 $500 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130942

R9 290 $500 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121807

$50 cheaper at Canada Computers!! :

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_ ... _id=064633

Club 3D Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 (CGAX-R9298)
- 947 MHz Clock, 5000 MHz Memory
- PCI-Express 3.0, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort

Our Price $449.00 CDN


GTX 780 Ti $700 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121822

R9 290X $600 USD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121820

So that is a savings of $50 and $100 between those competing models... yes the 780 Ti is slightly faster overall but you gotta pay a $100 premium for it!!
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:23 pm

Hammer_Time wrote:So that is a savings of $50 and $100 between those competing models... yes the 780 Ti is slightly faster overall but you gotta pay a $100 premium for it!!


I think that a lot of enthusiast have switch allegiance with the previous generation of Radeon products. The Radeon HD 78XX/79XX line really offered (and still do) crazy price/performance ratio and the new 290 duo does the same. Securing the enthusiast market might be the strategy here and it looks like it going pretty well :D
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Hammer_Time » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:22 pm

Plus Daamit has a better game bundle with their cards than nVidia does!

http://www.geforce.com/landing-page/holiday-bundle

Gigabyte bundles BF4 with their new R9 cards! :

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphics/d ... Cards.html

Gigabyte Technology, a leading supplier of mainboards, graphics cards and other computer components, has announced that it is now bundling a free copy of Battlefield 4 video game with all of its graphics cards based on the AMD Radeon R9-series graphics processing units. Gigabyte is the second company to add the BF4 to its AMD Radeon R9 graphics adapters.

Many graphics cards manufacturers earlier bundled Battlefield 4 video game with select graphics boards since although Advanced Micro Devices participated in development of Battlefield 4 and even said that the game has special optimization for the latest Radeon graphics cards based on GCN architecture, it did not secure a deal under which the BF4 would have been available in all Never Settle bundles. As a result, many suppliers of graphics cards are bundling the title only with select models of their products.

Starting from now, all Gigabyte graphics cards based on AMD Radeon R9 290X, R9 290, R9 280X and R9 270X, including current models and upcoming models with tuned design and boosted up performance, will come with a free copy of Battlefield 4.


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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby clone » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:23 am

Newegg shows that it has some.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Stupify » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:17 am

personally i believe it is the game bundle that's attracting a lot more purchases than the $ savings on the sticker. at those prices $50 and $100 don't exactly feel like huge savings.

as for being out of stock could be to do with higher demand or lower yield/production or as the OP mentioned - after market cards en route.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:21 am

clone wrote:Newegg shows that it has some.


The reason I've used the word "almost" :wink:
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:44 am

Stupify wrote:personally i believe it is the game bundle that's attracting a lot more purchases than the $ savings on the sticker. at those prices $50 and $100 don't exactly feel like huge savings.

as for being out of stock could be to do with higher demand or lower yield/production or as the OP mentioned - after market cards en route.


Are games bundle that great at attracting purchases??? When I took the decision to switch to AMD it was because of troubles I had with Nvidia's driver and the fact that a Radeon 7970 was $150 cheaper than a GTX 680 at the same level of performance. Value and performance mate, that's what motivate my wallet.

I always thought that the Never Settle bundle was a nice bonus, but nothing more. Most of the games offered in the bundle were offered at around $12 a month after purchase anyway (Tomb Raider, Deus EX, FC3 Blood Dragon...).
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Stupify » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:46 am

apparently so i have read.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:36 am

Meh, game bundles are nice but depends on the buyer. Some peeps who don't already own BF4 will love to get it bundled for free with their new R9 cards... others could care less. I did not buy my HD 7870 recently for the "Radeon Rewards Silver" deal ( choice of 2 older games )... not complaining, but it was not a factor at all in my purchasing decision to be honest.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby TAViX » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:04 am

You can buy from Japanese sites, but be careful to pay ridiculous prices like ~700$ for a 290X. Even Amazon Japan that ships worldwide guaranteed have the same shitty prices.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:41 pm

4h17pm, I receive a notification saying that Newegg.ca received a batch of Sapphire 290x cards (BF4 Bundle). 4h19, trigger was pulled and confirmation was received.

I'm ashamed, in the end, I just couln't wait... I should ask for medication... :oops:

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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Hammer_Time » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:57 pm

Nice... great Christmas present to yourself!! 8)
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby clone » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:31 am

4h17pm, I receive a notification saying that Newegg.ca received a batch of Sapphire 290x cards (BF4 Bundle). 4h19, trigger was pulled and confirmation was received.
get ahold of a 2nd end plate and mod it for better flow, the card will apparently run notably quieter under full load.

the power management thermal settings can be manipulated but if the card is as solid as AMD claims while running 95c then improve flow for less distraction.

if you want to test the effect of a modded end plate just turn your box on it's side after removing the end plate then load the game and push the heat.... if it's quiet, wonderful, if it's quieter that's all good too.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Hammer_Time » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:38 am

Or order this ( out of stock right now, but when it is re-stocked ) :

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6835186068

ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme III VGA Cooler

- nVidia & AMD, 3 Quiet 92mm PWM Fans, SLI/CrossFire

Compatibility: AMD Radeon 8000 Series Chip: 8870 7000 Series Chip: 7870, 7850, 7790 6000 Series Chip: 6970, 6950, 6870, 6850, 6790 5000 Series Chip: 5870, 5850, 5830 4000 Series Chip: 4890, 4870, 4850, 4830 3000 Series Chip: 3870, 3850 R Series Chip: R9 290/290X NVIDIA GTX Series Chip: Titan, 780, 770, 680* (w/o stacked power socket), 670* (w/o stacked power socket), 660Ti, 660, 650Ti, 580, 570, 560Ti, 560 SE, 560, 550Ti, 480, 460 SE, 460 GTS Series Chip: 450, 250, 240 (OEM) 9000 Series Chip: 9800 GTX+, 9800 GTX, 9800 GT, 9600 GT, 9600 GSO 512, 9600 GSO, 9500 GT (not LP) 8000 Series Chip: 8800 Ultra (G80), 8800 GTX (G80), 8800 GTS 512 (G92), 8800 GTS (G92), 8800 GTS (G80), 8800 GT, 8800 GS (9600GSO) 7000 Series Chip: HD 7790, 7900 GTX, 7800 GTX 512, 7800 GTX, 7800 GT

$77.99


:mrgreen: Mebbe the stock cooler will work "good enough" for him, but if he needs better/quieter cooling in the future this is always a good option too...

Tom's slapped one on a plain 290 and was impressed:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/r9- ... ,3671.html

Real-World Performance Improvement

All of this adds up to an improvement in gaming, quantified by measuring average frames per second. Otherwise, a higher sustainable clock rate on its own doesn't mean much. You'll have to forgive the results with AMD's Catalyst 13.11 Beta 6 and 8 drivers. These numbers were all run before the company adjusted its fan control algorithm in the face of our investigative work.

Between when we received our original press board with AMD's original driver and our more recent overclocking effort using Arctic's Accelero, the Radeon R9 290 picks up nearly 20% more performance. Even after the Beta 8 driver with a 47% PWM limit, the modified card wins by 13%. Of course, by pushing the 290's fan speed even higher using Catalyst 13.11 Beta 9, AMD managed to eke out addition performance. At the same time, however, it made a very loud thermal solution even louder. clock speed gain. Arctic's Accelero Xtreme III gives you even more speed, without the unbearable whining.


Arctic's Accelero Xtreme III does exactly what it's supposed to do: it cools. But it does that job so effectively and quietly that you end up wondering if AMD's Radeon R9 290 is even the same card in your PC.

We'd like Arctic to include three additional full-sized sinks and one lower-profile RAM sink for the Radeon R9 290 and 290X. It might also want to consider increasing the contact area of its VRM coolers.

Of course, the Accelero wasn't designed for the R9 290, and Arctic doesn't even try claiming AMD's latest is officially compatible. But after our experimentation, the results were so convincing and the list of alternative options so short that we're almost forced to recommend this modification.

This isn't just an endorsement of the Accelero Xtreme III, but a must-have fix for anyone who can't wait for AMD's board partners to start selling Radeon R9 290 and 290X cards. You'll spend an extra $75 on the heat sink and fans, but save money on mandatory headphones, we suppose. Additionally, the performance you'll pick up due to the Hawaii GPU running at its peak clock rate, rather than dithering down to lower frequencies, will make the reference cards look antiquated.

Our Smart Buy award goes to Arctic's cooler, which turns AMD's newest high-end cards into faster, quieter, better versions of themselves. AMD needs to take a page out of Nvidia's book. Its reference cooler shouldn't be considered reference at all. It's more of a torture device for an otherwise very capable graphics processor. Someone over there should be thanking Arctic for providing a reprieve.


Of course the "non-reference" cooled 290 cards will be showing up soon ( no ETA mentioned, but I am guessing within next few weeks ), like this Asus 290X with DirectCu II cooling solution:

http://techreport.com/news/25746/asus-t ... -ii-cooler

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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:28 am

I might also try the NZXT Kraken G10 bracket route:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YattxxyWRh0

https://store.nzxt.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RL-KRG10

Very sexy and efficient cooling solution, if you have an old compatible closed loop system the total cost is $30 :shock:

Even if you don't already own a closed loop cooler, buying a Corsair H55 ($65) and the NZXT bracket would cost about the same than buying an Accelero Xtreme III.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:12 am

Hammer_Time wrote:Of course the "non-reference" cooled 290 cards will be showing up soon ( no ETA mentioned, but I am guessing within next few weeks ), like this Asus 290X with DirectCu II cooling solution:

http://techreport.com/news/25746/asus-t ... -ii-cooler

Bring them, Bring them... 8)


AAARrrrgggggghhh!!!!! I hate being a compulsive buyer!!!!!

Still:
Custom R9 290 Cards Expected Before Custom R9 290Xs
By Niels BroekhuijsenDECEMBER 6, 2013 12:40 PM - Source: ComputerBase.de |

Custom coolers for the R9 290 will come out anywhere between mid-December and early January. Custom R9 290X's will follow.

When the Radeon R9 290 and the R9 290X launched, it quickly became apparent that they were very powerful cards. Unfortunately, they were also rather noisy and designed to run at 95 C. Luckily, our test proved that with decent cooling, the cards have the potential to run a lot quieter and cooler. Of course, this required an aftermarket cooler, and not everyone is prepared to void their warranty in this way.

We all know that the AIBs will eventually come out with their own cooling solutions, though there has been a big lack of clarity as to when that will be. Sources have told the German website ComputerBase.de when this might happen, and sadly, it seems there is a good chance Santa won't be able to help you out.

The report indicates that the Radeon R9 290 with custom cooling solutions is expected to hit around mid/late December, or early next year. Also, it seems that the R9 290X cards with custom cooling solutions will follow later. One of the sources told ComputerBase.de that it blames AMD for not providing the required data on time. Thus, manufacturers did not have enough time to make their own custom solutions.


This did put me a little more at ease :wink:
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby Stupify » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:31 am

290 should rightly be higher in demand and hence given the bigger priority than the faster 290x
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Finally went with the Arctic Cooling Accelero Hybrid. It did very well with latest top cards, many are getting great results with the R9 2XX. Ultimate cooler for the Ultimate Radeon, this is very exiting!

Water and Air for a Graphics Card: ARCTIC Accelero Hybrid Cooling System Review. Page 7
[01/02/2013 05:08 AM | Cooling]
by Sergey Lepilov

Conclusion:
As you may know from our reviews, Arctic produces rather ordinary CPU coolers and excellent GPU coolers. The new Accelero Hybrid solution follows this rule, delivering outstanding performance at an extremely low level of noise on a well-overclocked GeForce GTX 680. It completely outperformed the best proprietary ASUS DirectCU II VGA cooler. The Accelero Hybrid is compatible with many graphics card models. It is easy to assemble, install and use. Its radiator with a fan can be placed in different spots inside the PC chassis and it is bundled with highly efficient thermal grease.

The biggest downside we can see is the high price. The retail price of the Antec KÜHLER H2O 620, which is the basis of the Accelero Hybrid, is only $57. We don’t think that the additional two fans, accessories and GPU fasteners justify the tripling of that number. Even though no other brand offers anything like that, the Arctic Accelero Hybrid seems to be overpriced. One more downside we noticed with our computer case was that the tubes were too short for the radiator to be installed inside the chassis. Otherwise, ARCTIC Accelero Hybrid is an excellent high-performance and quiet cooler, which deserves our undivided recommendation and Ultimate Innovation title.


Sergey likes it, it's got to be... cool... :lol:

Arctic Accelero Hybrid 7970 Liquid Cooling System review - Final Words & Conclusion
by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/26/2012 10:29 AM

And here we are at the end of the article. The Arctic Accelero Hybrid 7970 Liquid Cooling kit does marvellous things in terms of cooling and noise levels. I was really impressed by the GPU temperature being below 50 Degrees C under full load, heck, close to 40 Degrees C even. Mind you that with liquid cooling there is always one caveat... your ambient temperature. If you live in a climate where it is is 19 Degrees C as it is where I live or if you live in a climate where 30 Degrees C is the norm then that ambient temperature is going to have an effect on the overall cooling temperature of the coolant. That said you'd still get excellent temps.
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Re: R9 290X out of stock everywhere!!!

Postby mhudon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:08 pm

:!: 12+3+2 phase power design, 2x8pins + 6pins power connector, now this is what I call Lightning :!:

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MSI Radeon R9 290X Lightning PCB pictured
RADEON R9 290X


Here is the first look at the new MSI Lightning.

MSI is slowly preparing R9 290X and GTX 780 Ti Lightning cards. Today I share with you pictures of the first custom R9 290X board. So how do we know it’s R9 290X? Well it has the same memory layout and missing CrossFire fingers. That should be enough for a proof.

Assuming that this a final PCB revision then MSI R9 290X Lightning would require two 8-pin power connectors and one 6-pin power connector. I think that’s quite a lot of power to be delivered to one card only. It also seems like R9 290X Lightning would feature 12+3+2 phase power design. That said the PCB is very much alike to GTX 480 Lightning, which had 6-pin power connector devoted to memory.

Last but not least MSI will provide V-Check points to allow direct measurement of GPU, memory and auxiliary lines voltages. I could also mention Military Class IV components, but since there aren’t any on the picture I don’t think that’s necessary.

On a contrary to R7970 Lightning, R9 290X will be equipped with a default set of display outputs: two DVIs, HDMI and DisplayPort.

Based on what MSI told me I expect MSI R9 290X Lightning to be released early next year.

MSI Radeon R9 290X Lightning PCB-back

MSI-Radeon-R9-290X-Lightning-GPU


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