Make sure you don't use windows file copy on that failing drive to backup, or if it hits a bad spot you will probably end up with an unresponsive OS.
I've got about 7 of those 7200.11 drives still running in servers. Only had one fail out of the original 12.
In my experience in the past decade, reliability is more based on a drive model than a manufacturer.
The red drive will do 7200rpm if needed, so I don't think the performance difference is an issue, though I haven't looked at benchmarks.
With the WD Red lineup, Western Digital continues its successful branding initiative. The three disks that we have had in-house over the last month have performed and held up quite well under stress. The disks have the optimal balance of firmware features necessary for usage in NAS systems. The icing on the cake is the fact that all of these features are configurable, if the end user so desires. The power consumption profile is also very attractive, and the reduced IntelliPower rotational speed doesn't seem to affect the performance much (at least in the SMB / SOHO 2 - 5 bay NAS systems that these drives are meant for).
Are these features worth the extra premium? We have no doubts about that, as the extended warranty period (3 years vs. 2 for the Green drives) and 24x7 support, as well as the lower power consumption should pay for itself over the course of the lifetime of the drive. Irrespective of the warranty / RMA possibility, consumers would do well to keep data on any hard drive (including the WD Reds) backed up (if possible, in a different location).
On the basis of our evaluation, we have no reservations in recommending the WD Red lineup as the drives of choice for a NAS system. As usual, it is extended usage and consumer reports a few months down the line which will tell the true story. At the moment, however, WD does have a winner in the NAS market segment with the WD Red hard drives.
Nice drive for storage...good balance of performance with low power consumption...
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Limited Warranty period (parts): 2 years
Limited Warranty period (labor): 2 years
Pros: got it for an excellent price.
price-to-performance ratio is very reasonable, performs just below the 2TB Western Digital Black at nearly half the price.
purchased 2 units, both are functional.
So far, no problems.
Cons: every so often, the hard drive will make a high-pitched whine and clicking sound. It sounds sharp and fast. I know this is too fast to be caused by the platters spinning up. I am using one of these drives in conjunction with a 64GB SSD and Intel Rapid Storage Technology, so the drive doesn't always receive reads/writes immediately while working with larger files. I've checked the S.M.A.R.T. status of the drive as well as the sectors and it's completely healthy. my experience has always been hard drives + nasty sounds = failure. Again, I've yet to have problems but I find the sound to be quite unnerving.
Can't Always Get What You Want
Pros: It is difficult to find many pros for Hard Drives produced virtually anywhere these days. The technology is very mature, but with all of the stiff competition over the past few years it has resulted in so many corners being cut that sadly the "square is now round".
What we should be seeing is hard drives that will run forever and we're replacing them with SSD's because they're faster and have no moving parts.
Cons: I just wanted to add to the "reliability factor" of internal hard drives these days. It is true that Seagates made in China are of the lowest quality, and ditto for Hitachi "Deathstars" as they were bought out by Seagate and also come from China and lack quality. Toshiba markets their HDD's from Hitachi Global, a.k.a., Storage Products(Shenzhen) Co Ltd which of course is in China. WD has plants in Thailand and Malaysia and that is where the majority of their (black, green, red) drives come from. Not sure is they're getting the blue line out of China now. They're not making drives like they used to a few years ago.
Manufacturers used to tout MTBF's of a million hours, but now you often don't even see them list it. They've shortened warranties and seem to be fine with DOA rates as high as 10 - 20%.
Most reviews are written within 1 - 4 weeks of purchase so it is even more telling that so many folks have tales of woe for their brand new drives, and it leaves one wondering that those positive reviews and warm feelings may be short lived.
Other Thoughts: I have several older Western Digital and Samsung (pre-selloff to Seagate) drives that are 3 - 5 years old with no bad sectors or strange sounds coming from them. These were produced to higher standards than comparable drives made today.
Prices are coming down on SSD's, but there still is a read/write operations ceiling where the current memory technology can only cycle so many times before it begins to degrade.
Perhaps this limitation will be overcome in the future, but for now you will be paying a premium for a SSD drive which will begin to degrade over time with use.
Pros: Good Price
Cons: Appears to have a really high failure rate, based on my own experience and the others I see here.
Pros: Reliable and fast. I store music/pictures/movies on a pair of these setup in RAID. So far so good.
Cons: The spin up/down is a little bit noisier than some other seagates that I have used in the past. Not really a big deal though.
Pros: I bought the drive on sale during Black Friday, so for the capacity/price, it was a great deal. I've had it running for about a month now without any issues, other than the noise it will make every now and again that others have reported.
Cons: The noise is apparently a power saving feature, but it makes me cringe every time I hear it. I've never owned any other HDD that made noise like that, unless it was about to die. I was worried at first, but after running lots of DFTs and reading other's comments/Seagate forums, I'm not very concerned about it anymore. I do run a nightly backup of my important files though, just incase (probably a good idea regardless).
Pros: Decent speeds.
Cheaper than many other drives of this capacity.
Cons: The first drive that I got makes a short, high-pitched, scraping sound from time to time although I'm not convinced it has any negative impact on performance as I tested it with HD Tune Pro after a month of chirping and the drive health does not appear to suffer from it. The sound just gets on your nerves and makes you paranoid about drive failure.
Pros: * Size
Cons: Ordered 4 at the same time. Of those, so far:
* 2 were DOA.
* 1 died after 3 weeks of use.
Other Thoughts: With 2 DOA drives, I performed 4 complete write/read tests (Linux command: badblocks -w) on the other 2 to ensure that they were good. They appeared to be and I attempted to install them in a RAID array. They were too large for the target system to handle -- my fault. They sat on a shelf for 6 months before I needed 1 for a new system.
That drive lasted 3 weeks before developing unrecoverable bad sectors in two separate areas of the drive. I mirrored it to the fourth drive and am RMAing it. We'll see how long it lasts...
Western Digital Red WD20EFRX 2TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Limited Warranty period (parts): 3 years
Limited Warranty period (labor): 3 years
Great for the purpose
Pros: These drives are nice, I purchased 3 of them and set it up with a hardware RAID-5 for 3.6-ish TB of usable space to use as primary storage on a budget ESXi5.1 Server to host VMs. I have a NAS4Free VM that holds all of my media. Also I have a Windows Server 2012 VM as my home domain controller, DNS, etc... On top of that I have a few client VMs (Win7, Vista, XP, Linux, etc..) to test with. I can have them all load at once and still have a surprisingly fast load time.
I have been running it for a few months now with no issues (also no DOAs either) , they all run quiet, cool and fast for not being an SSD or a 7200 RPM drive. I recommend these to anyone who has a NAS or wants cheap, reliable secondary storage or something like that. I will buy another today actually to increase the size because Newegg has a sale today for a 2 TB Red Drive for 110 bucks.
Cons: The only Con would be that the price of the 3 TB model is SO much more than the 2 TB one. Normal Price the 2 TB = $130 VS the 3 TB = 170
Other Thoughts: These are hooked to a LSI MegaRAID SATA/SAS 9240-8i RAID card using a forward breakout cable (SAS --> SATA) and are in a RAID-5 configuration. Perfect stability, no issues.
First Hard Drive review
Pros: I've owned many hard drives over the years, and after a recent detrimental experience with another online supplier, and a set of 4x Seagate Barracuda 2TB single platter 7200rpm drives, I am very happy to write a review of these WD Red drives.
The 4 Seagate drives I received from another supplier were all dead on arrival with terrible clicking noises in each, and many I/O errors. I was very worried and spent nearly 3 months to get the drives RMA'd, and even more time to try and get all of my money back (they said they couldn't re-produce the clicking sounds and were trying to charge me restocking fees).
I finally got all of the returns processed from the other company and ordered 4 of these 2TB Western Digital Red drives from Newegg. The drives are running in RAID 0 giving me a total of 8TB of storage for my video editing suite. The drives are online 24/7 and have no clicking sounds or smart errors thus far. I've had them running for a total of almost 2 months spinning without any rest and haven't had any hiccups. If you're looking to run some drives in RAID0 for media storage / scratch disks, these are the drives for you.
Western Digital had a simple goal in mind when launching the WD Red; they wanted the drives to be synonymous with SOHO NAS use, developing into the defacto standard for small NAS use. Their custom firmware dubbed NASware and related technologies get the WD Red ready for this specialized 24/7 operational task. The Red has all the features needed like no unnecessary head parking, drive tolerances that support RAID environments and 3D Active Balance technology which reduces vibrational wear on the drives. WD has also pre-qualified the Red with leading NAS vendors and the host controllers found in most NAS systems. On the support side the drives come with a three year warranty and a dedicated support line just for WD Red owners.
DIREWOLF75 wrote:And secondly, anyone remember what the warranty time was from Seagate 2.5 years ago?
Do yourself a favour and invest a bit more money and get a WD Red , good compromise between price and capacity and performance, and I bet the Reds are a lot more reliable too... the WD Red 2.0 TB costs $20 more than the Seagate Barracuda 2.0 TB drive over here on newegg.com, but you will probably pay more for it over there, it will be worth the extra money over the lifetime of the drive for you however, reliability and noise-wise...
The conclusion is that these Seagate Barracudas are fast and cheap, but they are NOISY as hell by design
My advice, go for the Constellation line from Seagate, enterprise class HDDs, I've searched a lot for dependable hard-drives, but it seems nowadays the output of crap is insane, so I had to go enterprise...
Hammer_Time wrote:I too think the WD Red is the best choice for you ( Seagate Constellation are awesome as well, but as you say, very expensive in your area... ) all factors considered. Happy Shopping!
DIREWOLF75 wrote:Also, checking around with warranties, well the store has a 2y warranty for all drives they sell, so that wont work, and HDsentinel specifically stated that the issue was not serious enough to generate a warranty-ticket from Seagate... That looked rather funny in a dark humor kind of way when it displayed estimated time of life remaining as 21 days right underneath that message...
DIREWOLF75 wrote:Mmm, only problem is that the 2TB Constellation has a pricetag of 2290 SEK. Enough for TWO WD Reds.
DIREWOLF75 wrote:Everything backed up on the new drive, zero data loss and the old drive now seems to run ok again.
And the new drive, no noise, 70-120MB/s during backup copying, not bad, even if you do notice that the seektime is a bit longer, the difference is not enough to be a bother... Looks like a winner.
Unusually, i get a positive surprise, WD actually makes a HDD that doesn´t sound like a steel mill on LSD!
Will be real interesting now to see if the old drive keeps running without any more sectors failing. If it does, i know my guess about the cause is likely correct.
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