anyone watch Halo: Forward unto dawn?

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Re: anyone watch Halo: Forward unto dawn?

Postby DIREWOLF75 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:32 am

a solid credibility creator would be to decide on a ratio and then creatively stick to it.... say 3 bad guys dead for every 1 good guy, now when setting your scenes all you have to do is decide how many bad guys you want to see killed to determine how many disposable good guys you'll be creatively killing off.

Terribly bad idea. Your´re just mass-adding redshirts to the story, completely defeating your own stated purpose.

That might even be worse than what you want to fix. Killing off disposable good guys doesn´t make much difference unless either director or story writer is a real wiz.

5 good guys have to die for a movie to have any real impact...... that's right for a movie to have an impact we the viewer cannot know who will live and who will die and that includes the really good guys.... a few of them have to go, sorry.... it's the difference between a great movie and a crap one, an epic movie and a typical piece of homogenous blandness.

No they don´t have to die, but the threat has to be credible, or perceived as such.

Though someone who is really good, can manage suspense and drama even without that just by good story, opposition or scene setting. Those tend to be very rare unfortunately.
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Re: anyone watch Halo: Forward unto dawn?

Postby DIREWOLF75 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:04 pm

don't put them in red shirts, or more to the point don't make it obvious....and btw how exactly is it completely defeating my own stated purpose... exactly how Direwolf?

You specifically set up to have DISPOSABLE good guys. Practically the definition of redshirts. And even if they´re not ST style and actually wearing red shirts, that usually doesn´t matter, people tend to spot redshirts with ease anyway.

So instead of knowing that all the good guys are going to live, everyone will be able to say "those guys are going to die, the other good guys wont".
At least as bad.

yes they do have to die, not all but some if they don't the threat is the opposite of.

The audience doesn´t know WHEN or HOW someone might get killed.

both sides losing during epic action scenes by your measure is a "terribly bad idea"...

Please reread and comprehend what i said instead of making a strawman argument.

And skip the personal attacks just once in a while will you?
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Re: anyone watch Halo: Forward unto dawn?

Postby Hammer_Time » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:15 pm

Agree with Dire, no need for personal attacks... I know it is hard sometimes, but for the greater good here... :wink:
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