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Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Benjagan91 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:05 am

Hi,

I wanna overclock a 2ghz chip to 3ghz via the fsb. A little personal project of mine really. It's got a stock 533 (133) FSB so i'll have to lift that to 800 (200) FSB for it's 15x multi to push 3ghz.

The board's apparent FSB wall is around the mid 250 area, but these results were obtained by people overclocking the 667mhz FSB variants of my chip, not the 533 chips. Does this mean i can ignore the board's fsb wall limitation as long as i keep the chip cool?

I think the TDP is around 31w for this chip, and the IHS isn't included with this model.

I know i'll probably have to overvolt the chip somewhat, but i'm just wondering what's my best bet in regards to cooling? It'll probably run pretty cool anyway... but yeah.

cooling mounts/holes are socket 478 oldschool retention stuff.

Will i have to replace the cooling on the north/south bridge at all? I'd like to run this 50% overclock full-time (whenever powered on).

cpu: Intel Core Duo (Yonah) T2450
mbd: AOpen i975xa-ydg

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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby clone » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:58 pm

you will need a better cpu cooler, some form of passive cooling on both north bridge and south bridge along with placing ramsinks on the VRM's.

you will have to place some low speed fans to blow on or around the vrms, the North Bridge and the South Bridge, you will likely not get a 50% overclock and it will be limited by your motherboard.

be carefull what ram you get.

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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Benjagan91 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:28 am

So because it's such a cool chip to start with, i should just use good air-cooling and then concentrate on keeping the NB, SB, and VRMs cool?

For ram i'll just get some nice ddr2 800 so it's running in spec with the FSB at it's OCed speed.

I can get the gear cheap, and i just thought it would be an interesting project for myself to see Intel's P6 microarchitecture at 3ghz in a dual core chip, humming along on an 800mhz fsb :)

This is the only chip i can get 3ghz/800 fsb with due to it's 533 fsb on a 15 multi. It would be nice if i could use the slightly faster chips and drop the multis, but i don't think the board would allow for me to do so... and the 667fsb on the faster chips makes for more issues. This chip is perfect for the project really :)

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Benjagan91 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:44 am

I have marked areas on the board that i believe to be the cpu, nb, sb, and vrms. Have i marked the correct areas that need to be kept cool?

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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby shuttle Xaber » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:07 am

Benjagan91 wrote:I know i'll probably have to overvolt the chip somewhat, but i'm just wondering what's my best bet in regards to cooling? It'll probably run pretty cool anyway... but yeah.

cooling mounts/holes are socket 478 oldschool retention stuff.

Will i have to replace the cooling on the north/south bridge at all? I'd like to run this 50% overclock full-time (whenever powered on).


for NB/SB, don't let it run with fanless hsf...can be very hot
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby shuttle Xaber » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:10 am

Benjagan91 wrote:I have marked areas on the board that i believe to be the cpu, nb, sb, and vrms. Have i marked the correct areas that need to be kept cool?

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Thanks.

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all critical point has pinned there...
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Sauron_Daz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:15 am

Don't forget to put it in a well ventilated case!
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby shuttle Xaber » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:00 am

like this ?

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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Cow187 » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:53 am

Thats a good start but I still see some room for fans there. No reason not to be cooling down those USB ports and CDROM drive.
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Sauron_Daz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:08 pm

:lol:

The sound that thing must produce..
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby shuttle Xaber » Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:28 am

Cow187 wrote:Thats a good start but I still see some room for fans there. No reason not to be cooling down those USB ports and CDROM drive.


i bet there are no single person HERE who has a pc like that, the fans alone consumes more power than the pc itself :mrgreen:
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Kahless » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:46 am

I built a computer about 10 years ago that had 2x80mm vantec tornado fans in the side, 1 in the front and 1 in the rear. Each one was 58db and 119cfm of airflow! It was like sitting next to an airplane.
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Sauron_Daz » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:05 am

So they have been given a proper name: "tornado". :D
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby mauser1891 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:36 pm

Hello Folks,

I was trying to figure out where the registry designation is... Air you sure it shouldn't be registered with the FAA?
Must be thrust vectored to not go airborne. ;)
Did it get an award for most cooling fans used?

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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Sauron_Daz » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:15 am

:lol:
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby mauser1891 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:27 am

Hello Folks,


Best cooling for LT OC... I am thinking of terms in quiet and least failure, but "envelope" in consideration.
I would suggest any hardware that is passive in nature to be best.
Since a fan or pump could have a defect that could lead to premature failure.
For example, my biggest fear is that my pump could fail on my H80.
I am covering elements of this in my FX-8350 thread, which I feel covers any processor used in this respect.
Not at all wanting to detract from this thread, but it is a great point of concern and interest.
I hope more people will have updated solutions for this thread. :D


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H80 reference; http://www.corsair.com/hydro-series-h80 ... ooler.html
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby Sauron_Daz » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:18 am

mauser1891 wrote:Hello Folks,


Best cooling for LT OC... I am thinking of terms in quiet and least failure, but "envelope" in consideration.
I would suggest any hardware that is passive in nature to be best.
Since a fan or pump could have a defect that could lead to premature failure.
For example, my biggest fear is that my pump could fail on my H80.
I am covering elements of this in my FX-8350 thread, which I feel covers any processor used in this respect.
Not at all wanting to detract from this thread, but it is a great point of concern and interest.
I hope more people will have updated solutions for this thread. :D


Thank You,
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H80 reference; http://www.corsair.com/hydro-series-h80 ... ooler.html


Just set a max temp for your CPU in the BIOS at which point the PC shuts down.
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Re: Best cooling for long-term overclock?

Postby mauser1891 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:21 am

Hello Sauron_Daz,


Already set right from the start on first power up. I always go into the BIOS before anything else gets done.
Interestingly as I waited for this motherboard to arrive I have already downloaded and read the manual.
I had considered the "Tuniq" and a couple of other air cooling solutions, prior to my final decision of the H80.
Zoltec has a massive new passive cooling unit, but I am looking forward to some reviews on it yet.


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