Cars/Tuning/Motor Sports Thread

[TAViX]

I thought I create this thread since I know that most of you guys love motr sports and cars in general. So, if you have something interesting to share please fell free to do so.

Btw, is anyone watching F1? This season specialy. Personaly I was a fan Schummy until he retired, but now I'm a fan of Brown, and Janson Button. I don't know why, but I love how those low budget teams like Brown or Redbull kick the a$$ of those giants like Ferrari, Mercedes or BMW. Finaly some good competition.
The "diffuser" thing is also interesting, but myself I'm a little sceptical about this huge difference it can make it. I know it produce more down force but not enough to give half second advantage over the compettition.

My guess is the engine. Since all of the engines must have now a max top of 19000 RPM from 21000, I'm thinking this is the biggest difference.



In other toppic, check out this limmo:

http://autobeattuning.blogspot.com/2007 ... ecial.html

[Tiggerz]

I am actually watching F1 for once. The new rules seem to be working. The smaller rear spoilers reduce the turbulence enough for them to actually pass each other now.

Also watching MotoGP (motegi) at the moment. A relative is there (the bugger).

[TAViX]

Button won the 3rd race from 4 this year. A new champ is rising!



Check out this chrome baby :

[Sauron_Daz]

Nice, but would be illegal here. Too much reflection that may blind other drivers.

[graf]

http://www.alsacorp.com/products/killer ... chrome.htm

[Akram]

Before the rules the races was rarely interesting.

[Fuzz]

I'd like to watch it more, but it is always on at 2am, or some other late hour. Last weekend, I looked on the guide, and it said a replay would be on sunday afternoon, so I got some beer, settled in, and . . . nothing. Speedvision showed a test pattern for 3 hours instead of the race. Killed my sunday afternoon! Anyway, I've downloaded it, and hope to watch it this week while I recover from knee surgery. I guess I should get this weeks race as well now! I've got lots of TV time ahead of me.

[<R.t..>^>Fusionc]

I have a question regarding motorsports. Cars are not allowed ANY type of traction control, braking assists, any handling assistance (features that are already in regular road cars. So like touring races, le mans, FIA stuff, Super GT, etc) at all major racing events. Is this true? I know there are no handling helpers in F1 whatsoever, just the man and his arms to do the work. Well, of course there is the wheel, can't do much without that handling helper xD.

[Fuzz]

Depends on the race. I'm pretty sure rally cars are allowed traction control. But no, F1 doesn't allow those things. I think to keep speed in check and keep the playing field level.

[TAViX]

http://www.alsacorp.com/products/killercans/kc/killerchrome.htm

LOL how many of those do you need to chrome youre entire car??? 100???? haha

I have a question regarding motorsports. Cars are not allowed ANY type of traction control, braking assists, any handling assistance (features that are already in regular road cars. So like touring races, le mans, FIA stuff, Super GT, etc) at all major racing events. Is this true? I know there are no handling helpers in F1 whatsoever, just the man and his arms to do the work. Well, of course there is the wheel, can't do much without that handling helper xD.

If I'm not wrong, the only thing allowed is the wheel-spin removal feature during start-up, but I'm not entirely sure about it... Also there is Kinetic Energy Recovery System, that stores the kinetic energy during brake, and can be used for a boost of 80~100 HP. Kind of a NOS system, only is entirely mechanical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_braking

[TAViX]

It's official. From next year, refueling during the race will be banned! wtf Berny??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Formula_One_season

Rule changes

Confirmed:
Refueling is to be banned for the first time since 1993.
Tyre warmers are to be banned.
A budget cap of £40m shall be made optional for 2010, with teams that are choosing to take up the budget cap being allowed greater technical freedom, together with unlimited testing. Teams choosing not to take up the budget cap may spend freely, but will have technical and testing constraints.
The maximum number of cars allowed to take part in a race shall be increased from 24 to 26 cars.
Formula One Management will offer financial support to all new teams from next season, in the form of $10m along with the free transportation of two chassis and 10,000kg of freight to each race.
The minimum car weight will be increased from 605kg to 620kg, to stop taller and heavier drivers such as BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica being at a disadvantage if KERS is added to their car.

Rumoured:

While the FIA want to make KERS mandatory, FOTA is seeking to ban the device due to its high cost.
The scoring system where by the driver with the most wins (as opposed to most accumulated points) becomes world champion was due to be introduced for the 2009 season, however the FIA breached its own rules introducing the scoring system. As it was introduced within 20 days of the first race all teams were required to agree to the changes, however not one team supported the changes. As a result, scoring system changes are to be deferred until 2010.
Bernie Ecclestone has said the new scoring system he is championing will definitely be introduced for 2010, although this has not yet been confirmed by the FIA.

[Sauron_Daz]

How are they going to ban refueling unless those cars don't go past 100 km/h?

[TAViX]

bigger fuel tank I guess. Also there are plans to reduce the number of laps withing the race.

Yep, Berny starts to get wakko...

To much Viagra is my guess...

[DIREWOLF75]

No refueling? That sucks. That was always one of the more interesting tactical choices to be made.

[Fuzz]

Tyre warmers are to be banned.

Well, that should make the starts more exciting. With cold tires, everyone is just gonna spin out a lot easier.

Why would they ban those? They seam like a safety device more than anything.

[<R.t..>^>Fusionc]

I still prefer Audi anyways.

[Sauron_Daz]

Tyre warmers are to be banned.

Well, that should make the starts more exciting. With cold tires, everyone is just gonna spin out a lot easier.

Why would they ban those? They seam like a safety device more than anything.

Combined with the no refueling rule it won't matter: the cars won't go fast anymore (unless they cut off some 200 km from the race length).

[TAViX]

Don't wory they will go the same. In '93 they were only entering for tire change , but that sucked.

[TAViX]

Here it is. The fastest car ever produced:
Meet the Mosler MT900 GTR XX Twin Turbo Land Shark




I say only this:

- 2500HP
- theoretical max speed 643.7 km/h (not tested untill august this year)

More details, numbers, facts and pictures here:
http://www.motorward.com/2009/05/mosler ... y-numbers/

http://www.gtspirit.com/2009/05/11/mosl ... k-2500bhp/

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090508.004 ... k-revealed

[psycho_mccrazy]

does it have the traction and the grip to lay all that power down on the tarmac? and what about cornering? how much does it weigh?

we should remember that the GBP 35000 Caterham R500 beat the Million Pound(GBP) Veyron around the Top Gear track